dummgelauft
12-08 12:02 PM
I think it all boils down to this scenerio
you have a seriously injured uninvited person in your front lawn about to die. what are you gonna do ?
Some people would want that 'problem' to go away and some would want to help the person. Our actions make what we are ..
BTW if anyone is interested, child birth generates 9 dols (measure of pain) of pain and at 10 dols a person dies. 9 dols is maximum pain a human being can suffer.
Take your pick.
I will call the Emergency services, to take the person off of my property...that is what I will do....
And you know what..they probably gave this woman epidural too....
you have a seriously injured uninvited person in your front lawn about to die. what are you gonna do ?
Some people would want that 'problem' to go away and some would want to help the person. Our actions make what we are ..
BTW if anyone is interested, child birth generates 9 dols (measure of pain) of pain and at 10 dols a person dies. 9 dols is maximum pain a human being can suffer.
Take your pick.
I will call the Emergency services, to take the person off of my property...that is what I will do....
And you know what..they probably gave this woman epidural too....
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mjdup
12-19 07:49 PM
With this 20 it is $220 from me. This will reach IV by 2/27 as per my bank.
I'm assuming you meant 12/27 :)
I'm assuming you meant 12/27 :)
tikka
07-06 02:54 PM
Link : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Green_card_hopefuls_to_resort_to_Gandhigiri/articleshow/2183334.cms
WASHINGTON: Hundreds of Indian high-skilled professionals in the US who have been on a roller coaster ride over the past month in their effort to get the green card will draw attention next week to their frustration -- with white flowers.
In a unique display of Gandhigiri -- a demonstratively peaceful Gandhian protest popularised in a recent Hindi movie -- scores of Indian H1-B visa holders who feel jilted by the abrupt changes in US immigration rules are planning to deluge US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director Emilio Gonzalez with flowers on July 10.
Their peaceful venting stems from a June 12 USCIS notification that promised to fast track the green card process for tens of thousands of skilled foreign professionals and their spouses -- only to disappoint later. The announcement led to a stampede in countries such as India and China for obtaining birth certificates and other related documents needed for the process. Applicants spent thousands of dollars to meet the requirements and the deadline.
But on Monday, USCIS rolled back its notification, turning, according to the lobby group Immigration Voice, "a glimmer of hope into despair."
The idea of overwhelming the USCIS office in Washington DC with flowers arose from a fervid discussion on the bulletin boards of Immigration Voice where many skilled workers vent their frustration over the long drawn green card process. Although there were some dissenting voices which said such gestures would be wasted, proponents of this form of Gandhigiri said up to 200 people had signed by for the flowery protest.
According to some estimates from Immigration Voice and its supporters, the Green Card flap affects more than 100,000 skilled workers and their spouses and family in India. Each applicant for the fast tract process announced by USCIS last month is said to have spent upward of $ 2000 to submit documentation.
Except for the $ 325 filing fees which USCIS has said it will refund, the rest of the money, including towards attorney fees, medical exams, couriers etc is down the drain, several applicants said.
"I'd guess that with about 100,000 people filing along with at least one secondary applicant each, that's $ 400 million down the drain. That's not chump change," Vikas Chowdhry, an applicant who has been closely tracking the process, told ToI.
The bonanza for immigration lawyers and physicians who conduct medical fitness tests, who had a busier four weeks than normal, comes on top of millions of dollars of social security tax that the US government collects each year from temporary guest workers (including H1-B visa holders). These guest workers don't get a refund when they return home if they do not qualify or wish not to become permanent US residents.
The Indian government has been trying in vain to arrive at a 'totalisation agreement' with the US in this regard to refund the money. But Washington has been resisting it because without continuous contribution from new immigrants, the country's social security system would go bust.
The 'florid' protest aside, AILF, the litigation arm of the American Immigration Lawyers Association, is also considering filing a lawsuit against USCIS for possibly having violated federal regulations and precedents, apart from the personal trauma and stress caused to individuals.
WASHINGTON: Hundreds of Indian high-skilled professionals in the US who have been on a roller coaster ride over the past month in their effort to get the green card will draw attention next week to their frustration -- with white flowers.
In a unique display of Gandhigiri -- a demonstratively peaceful Gandhian protest popularised in a recent Hindi movie -- scores of Indian H1-B visa holders who feel jilted by the abrupt changes in US immigration rules are planning to deluge US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director Emilio Gonzalez with flowers on July 10.
Their peaceful venting stems from a June 12 USCIS notification that promised to fast track the green card process for tens of thousands of skilled foreign professionals and their spouses -- only to disappoint later. The announcement led to a stampede in countries such as India and China for obtaining birth certificates and other related documents needed for the process. Applicants spent thousands of dollars to meet the requirements and the deadline.
But on Monday, USCIS rolled back its notification, turning, according to the lobby group Immigration Voice, "a glimmer of hope into despair."
The idea of overwhelming the USCIS office in Washington DC with flowers arose from a fervid discussion on the bulletin boards of Immigration Voice where many skilled workers vent their frustration over the long drawn green card process. Although there were some dissenting voices which said such gestures would be wasted, proponents of this form of Gandhigiri said up to 200 people had signed by for the flowery protest.
According to some estimates from Immigration Voice and its supporters, the Green Card flap affects more than 100,000 skilled workers and their spouses and family in India. Each applicant for the fast tract process announced by USCIS last month is said to have spent upward of $ 2000 to submit documentation.
Except for the $ 325 filing fees which USCIS has said it will refund, the rest of the money, including towards attorney fees, medical exams, couriers etc is down the drain, several applicants said.
"I'd guess that with about 100,000 people filing along with at least one secondary applicant each, that's $ 400 million down the drain. That's not chump change," Vikas Chowdhry, an applicant who has been closely tracking the process, told ToI.
The bonanza for immigration lawyers and physicians who conduct medical fitness tests, who had a busier four weeks than normal, comes on top of millions of dollars of social security tax that the US government collects each year from temporary guest workers (including H1-B visa holders). These guest workers don't get a refund when they return home if they do not qualify or wish not to become permanent US residents.
The Indian government has been trying in vain to arrive at a 'totalisation agreement' with the US in this regard to refund the money. But Washington has been resisting it because without continuous contribution from new immigrants, the country's social security system would go bust.
The 'florid' protest aside, AILF, the litigation arm of the American Immigration Lawyers Association, is also considering filing a lawsuit against USCIS for possibly having violated federal regulations and precedents, apart from the personal trauma and stress caused to individuals.
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vxg
08-26 02:22 PM
Of course they go by receipt date, but question is what is the receipt date? Each center enters data, and places folder in sequence of when they, the Center, received the file (and decided to accept it). This date is close to ND, but may be quite different than RD on your receipt, sometimes by several months (due to noone accepting huge volumes of July/Aug07 filings, or for some reason disputing as to which center should work on the case).
There are thousands of instances where cases were filed in July 07, but entered into the system in Sept/Oct 07. For all purposes, their RD is what you see online as "your case was received on...", which is close to ND.
See my earlier posts in this thread. If you ask a center if they are processing cases based on RD or ND, they will always say RD, because that is true based on their defintion of RD.
They will state they go by RD but check what RD they have in their system, does not matter what RD you have in your receipt.
May be it is an issue for transfer cases only where initially RD was issued by another service center say VSC and then case was transferred to TSC and TSC is using RD the date when they got the case. At least that is case for my app they told me. My lawyer is following up and if they don't fix it i Plan on using Congressman, Senator etc even a law suit as it is ridiculous that TSC sen the app to VSC for data entry and is not willing to honor the RD which VSC entered.
There are thousands of instances where cases were filed in July 07, but entered into the system in Sept/Oct 07. For all purposes, their RD is what you see online as "your case was received on...", which is close to ND.
See my earlier posts in this thread. If you ask a center if they are processing cases based on RD or ND, they will always say RD, because that is true based on their defintion of RD.
They will state they go by RD but check what RD they have in their system, does not matter what RD you have in your receipt.
May be it is an issue for transfer cases only where initially RD was issued by another service center say VSC and then case was transferred to TSC and TSC is using RD the date when they got the case. At least that is case for my app they told me. My lawyer is following up and if they don't fix it i Plan on using Congressman, Senator etc even a law suit as it is ridiculous that TSC sen the app to VSC for data entry and is not willing to honor the RD which VSC entered.
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polapragada
09-14 01:33 AM
your frustration at IV and the core.
You can do that and IV (core or its members) will not bite at you, because we know we are all part of the same movement, with the same frustrations, pain and stress associated with uncertainty. What is really needed is channelling the frustration toward action, mobilization and support at the grass roots.
The opposition is strong. But if we are to succeed, we need to work together. IV work is not easy. Takes time, commitment and money. Lots of people have been trying to do it for a long long time now. But circumstances and uncertainty/unpredictability associated with the legislature and governmental agency(ies) have always been the deterrent for IV's success.
Reversal of July 07 VB, multi-year EAD, Extended OPT etc. - IV has played significant roles. Under tough circumstances, IV has been able to obtain temporary measures that provide interim relief to you and posterity.
The day will come when retrogression will become history. But nobody knows what the calendar date of that day is. I surely hope that the day falls in 2008.
As a start, have you looked at the High-Five campaign started by a IV member? Please donate $5 for that campaign. That is the least you can do.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20183
Well said
You can do that and IV (core or its members) will not bite at you, because we know we are all part of the same movement, with the same frustrations, pain and stress associated with uncertainty. What is really needed is channelling the frustration toward action, mobilization and support at the grass roots.
The opposition is strong. But if we are to succeed, we need to work together. IV work is not easy. Takes time, commitment and money. Lots of people have been trying to do it for a long long time now. But circumstances and uncertainty/unpredictability associated with the legislature and governmental agency(ies) have always been the deterrent for IV's success.
Reversal of July 07 VB, multi-year EAD, Extended OPT etc. - IV has played significant roles. Under tough circumstances, IV has been able to obtain temporary measures that provide interim relief to you and posterity.
The day will come when retrogression will become history. But nobody knows what the calendar date of that day is. I surely hope that the day falls in 2008.
As a start, have you looked at the High-Five campaign started by a IV member? Please donate $5 for that campaign. That is the least you can do.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20183
Well said
nanilb
07-17 08:24 PM
Great Job. Thanks a lot !!!!!!!!
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vpadman
07-17 07:07 PM
Great work IV!!!
Thanks for your efforts.
Thanks for your efforts.
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ken
08-28 12:25 AM
gimme_GC2006- Just wondering at which local office you went for interview.
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deecha
07-20 10:55 PM
Friends,
What I need to do now? My I-94 has wrong expiration date (I entered in US on 03/07/2007 and I got I-94 with expiration date as 01/10/2007). My attorney told me that it can be explained later. So, I've already file my 485 with a bad I-94.
Please let me know if anything can be done or still I can do something to correct this issue.
Thanks,
hi_mkg
There are 2 possibilities here :
a) Wait for RFE to be issued, then reply to the RFE with evidence document and a written explanation. It may not be as simple, as they might issue a NOID if the I-94 date causes you to be artificially out of status / unlawful stay for > 180 days. Again this is just a best guess. Ask your lawyer for a more detailed explanation.
b) Use the I-539 status change form along with written explanation requesting an extension of your status because of the wrong date on the I-94 issued to you. Mail to CSC or VSC depending on jurisdiction. They should issue you a new I-94. When you get this, file an amendment to your original 485 that was filed. Again, suggest this approach to your lawyer and see what he says.
All the best.
What I need to do now? My I-94 has wrong expiration date (I entered in US on 03/07/2007 and I got I-94 with expiration date as 01/10/2007). My attorney told me that it can be explained later. So, I've already file my 485 with a bad I-94.
Please let me know if anything can be done or still I can do something to correct this issue.
Thanks,
hi_mkg
There are 2 possibilities here :
a) Wait for RFE to be issued, then reply to the RFE with evidence document and a written explanation. It may not be as simple, as they might issue a NOID if the I-94 date causes you to be artificially out of status / unlawful stay for > 180 days. Again this is just a best guess. Ask your lawyer for a more detailed explanation.
b) Use the I-539 status change form along with written explanation requesting an extension of your status because of the wrong date on the I-94 issued to you. Mail to CSC or VSC depending on jurisdiction. They should issue you a new I-94. When you get this, file an amendment to your original 485 that was filed. Again, suggest this approach to your lawyer and see what he says.
All the best.
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11-20 11:22 AM
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mjdup
12-20 12:54 PM
I had the first-hand opportunity to meet and see IV core members working for our cause. Really, it gives you the chill that thinking its the same GC everyone on this forum wants but the dedication with which they are approaching is amazing. There is no point talking about what we "could have done" after the congress session is over and god forbid, our bill doesn't pass through. 2008 is all about elections and the citizens, not too much of immigration will come to forefront, so please think.....
Contributors> thanks for the contribution...
Sideline onlookers> Till yesterday we had about 40.08% contribution and as of noon today we are only at 43.97%, contribution of 3.89% which amounts to around $2400 :) I bet we can do so much better after all we are so called "high skilled" immigrants....
please step up and let's not make it a beg fest..here..thanks !
T I am not a core member, but I trust these guys, they have been working hard putting in their own hard-earned money for travelling, and carrying out IV work. At this point, IV really needs two things, more members and more FUNDS . IV needs you to contribute, even if it is $20
Contributors> thanks for the contribution...
Sideline onlookers> Till yesterday we had about 40.08% contribution and as of noon today we are only at 43.97%, contribution of 3.89% which amounts to around $2400 :) I bet we can do so much better after all we are so called "high skilled" immigrants....
please step up and let's not make it a beg fest..here..thanks !
T I am not a core member, but I trust these guys, they have been working hard putting in their own hard-earned money for travelling, and carrying out IV work. At this point, IV really needs two things, more members and more FUNDS . IV needs you to contribute, even if it is $20
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BharatPremi
11-20 12:54 PM
when we had options to donate $20, a large number of members came out with the same argument for reducing it to $10!
meanwhile the check option usually allows flexibility and is temporarily down for some circumstances beyond immediate control. it will be back though.
Yes, I first thought to send a check and I remember As*** specifically instructed me the last time about what you have just mentioned and so I wanted to use paypal but I do not have that option under paypal (< 100). Anyway I will wait then.
meanwhile the check option usually allows flexibility and is temporarily down for some circumstances beyond immediate control. it will be back though.
Yes, I first thought to send a check and I remember As*** specifically instructed me the last time about what you have just mentioned and so I wanted to use paypal but I do not have that option under paypal (< 100). Anyway I will wait then.
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Gravitation
07-06 04:22 PM
Most Indians read TOI! It's a start!
Today.. TOI tomorrow... CNN.. who knows :)
You can send plants and plant "parts" that you can "comfortably" sit on! :D
So if cactus works for u...
We can make it a top story in American mainstream by digging it:
http://digg.com/politics/Green_card_hopefuls_to_resort_to_Gandhigiri_in_US
Please digg.
Today.. TOI tomorrow... CNN.. who knows :)
You can send plants and plant "parts" that you can "comfortably" sit on! :D
So if cactus works for u...
We can make it a top story in American mainstream by digging it:
http://digg.com/politics/Green_card_hopefuls_to_resort_to_Gandhigiri_in_US
Please digg.
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wandmaker
12-03 06:07 PM
Bump!
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senram
04-17 09:34 AM
This is a good idea. But tough to sell unless basic policy is changed. In USA any immigration has limit in numbers except a few category like spouses of US citizens. It is difficult to change that. When you put 8 years that means unlimited green cards. If they do that universities like TVU will be running full capacity and new universities will be started similar to that. Actually there should be some system to clean up univerity admission and also H1B so that genuine persons can come here easily.
Anyhow it is good idea to bring a bill like this and and see what happens. Still bills like recapture or modest rise of GC numbers will have a better chance of passing in congress
not a bad idea... but mind you they will be more for undocumented workers
Anyhow it is good idea to bring a bill like this and and see what happens. Still bills like recapture or modest rise of GC numbers will have a better chance of passing in congress
not a bad idea... but mind you they will be more for undocumented workers
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11-24 01:29 AM
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Administrator2
09-18 12:04 AM
madhuvj or GCStatus,
Thanks for your suggestion. But the problem is its not that simple. Here is why. If the same individual create multiple IDs on IV and post using multiple IDs, one for posting derogatory comments and others that are not derogatory, we can keep mum to a point, but then it just gets too frustrating. Like in this case, madhuvj and GCStatus is the same person posting from the same machine but posting as if you are two different individuals. Hence my posts. Please stop this and email/pm us your phone number and we will start the transition process. We are sure you will do a better job than us.
You see, just like everyone else, we also have limited number of hours in a day. We can either spend our time looking at who is using multiple forum ids to post similar messages creating a false impression for other forum visitor, like the one projected in 'if i can be blunt' thread, or we can spend our time doing things better than looking for duplicate forum ids. Your actions are not helping anyone, including yourself. Hope you understand.
Administrator2,
I know you guys have been doing a great job. I joined around july last year and have been a regular visitor to your site. Actually, I was just active on the thread that GCStatus has started. I dont think he ever used derogatory statements against any of the admin. Infact, he has posted for a help from admin on more than 4 occassions with out any proper response. Actually, If you look at this thread, it was some one else who had commented admins are on vacation and will not be back until july 2009. It was not GCStatus who said that. He just replied to that . He had no clue about what you guys are up to. So let us stop this leadership fight. Now that, you have clearly told you cannot hardwire that thread on the front page. Well, we cant do much about it now, since we are at your help here. If you think, GCStatus has said any thing bad about you, please can you post it, because i did not find any comments about admin.
Thanks
VJ
Thanks for your suggestion. But the problem is its not that simple. Here is why. If the same individual create multiple IDs on IV and post using multiple IDs, one for posting derogatory comments and others that are not derogatory, we can keep mum to a point, but then it just gets too frustrating. Like in this case, madhuvj and GCStatus is the same person posting from the same machine but posting as if you are two different individuals. Hence my posts. Please stop this and email/pm us your phone number and we will start the transition process. We are sure you will do a better job than us.
You see, just like everyone else, we also have limited number of hours in a day. We can either spend our time looking at who is using multiple forum ids to post similar messages creating a false impression for other forum visitor, like the one projected in 'if i can be blunt' thread, or we can spend our time doing things better than looking for duplicate forum ids. Your actions are not helping anyone, including yourself. Hope you understand.
Administrator2,
I know you guys have been doing a great job. I joined around july last year and have been a regular visitor to your site. Actually, I was just active on the thread that GCStatus has started. I dont think he ever used derogatory statements against any of the admin. Infact, he has posted for a help from admin on more than 4 occassions with out any proper response. Actually, If you look at this thread, it was some one else who had commented admins are on vacation and will not be back until july 2009. It was not GCStatus who said that. He just replied to that . He had no clue about what you guys are up to. So let us stop this leadership fight. Now that, you have clearly told you cannot hardwire that thread on the front page. Well, we cant do much about it now, since we are at your help here. If you think, GCStatus has said any thing bad about you, please can you post it, because i did not find any comments about admin.
Thanks
VJ
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gcnirvana
12-19 12:05 PM
Its a great idea. Go IV...Go....
Just made my third contribution.
Just made my third contribution.
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psaxena
02-27 12:49 PM
I am in complete agreement with IV and the proposal. After such a long time, the brains I always trusted, came up with the great proposal. Let me know if we can help.
cbpds
06-09 01:36 PM
We can also ask some big companies like Microsoft who back legal immigration extensively to help us financially right?
just my 2 cents
Our Goal for this event was $50000 and so far we did not even raise 20k. We are approximately 60% under target. We won't be able to have another event like this if we go down this path. The last thing we want to happen is our efforts to stall due to lack of dollars. it would undo everything we have done in the past 4.5 years
just my 2 cents
Our Goal for this event was $50000 and so far we did not even raise 20k. We are approximately 60% under target. We won't be able to have another event like this if we go down this path. The last thing we want to happen is our efforts to stall due to lack of dollars. it would undo everything we have done in the past 4.5 years
santb1975
12-01 01:45 AM
We definately need dedicated members like you and recurring contributions
I have made one time contributions twice before, but this time in the spirit of holidays I have signed up for $50 monthly contribution.
I have made one time contributions twice before, but this time in the spirit of holidays I have signed up for $50 monthly contribution.
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