paskal
12-13 10:01 PM
I am not able to start and feel that there is already hidden membership is there. Is there any thuth in this feeling? How does IV is working in terms of access rights?
IV is already not member friendly. With 25,000 members, raising 30,000 is getting so difficult. Why so? I once posed the question and moderators conveniently deleted it.
anyone can start a thread, if you need help doing it, you may wish to ask politely and someone will tell you.
why so? ask yourself. read your own comments. and let us all know how you have helped the process of ending YOUR retrogression.
i have reviewed every post you ever put on iv. i don't see any deleted post.
so you may want to think again. hardly anything is deleted around here. otherwise a lot of intemperate stuff that's posted would disappear.
ultimately it comes to this: if 25,000 members show no interest in contributing in a fund drive (barring the minuscule 500 who did), what's the point in being "friendly". hey- iv is you and me. there is nothing else. no building, assets, stocks. I or aman or pappu or logiclife and every other core member and iv leader are just like you. we have jobs and families to take care of. we are afflicted by immigration retrogression- like you.
we have put in time, money and effort at great cost to our personal lives. i wish i could "like you" to that one too.
if "members" are willing to make this their organization their own- if there is to be this sense of involvement and ownership, then we will succeed. if not, if the attitude for the most is going to be "why should i" and "nope i am not contributing" and "how dare you ask" and "i have free speech" and "why doesn't iv do xyz for me" and "why should logiclife use this and that tenor" and "why did abc say def to me" and "i demand respect" and the best "these are my 2c but don't ask me to lift a finger to do this- iv should do this" then forget it. won't happen. because that IV you are imagining doing wonders and making miracles is YOU.
let me take this opportunity to thank everyone that participated in the fund drive, joined state chapters, met lawmakers, took initiatives to start state groups, ran the funding threads and contributed in any other way.
you are guys are true assets to iv- in fact you are the true iv. kudos to you!
IV is already not member friendly. With 25,000 members, raising 30,000 is getting so difficult. Why so? I once posed the question and moderators conveniently deleted it.
anyone can start a thread, if you need help doing it, you may wish to ask politely and someone will tell you.
why so? ask yourself. read your own comments. and let us all know how you have helped the process of ending YOUR retrogression.
i have reviewed every post you ever put on iv. i don't see any deleted post.
so you may want to think again. hardly anything is deleted around here. otherwise a lot of intemperate stuff that's posted would disappear.
ultimately it comes to this: if 25,000 members show no interest in contributing in a fund drive (barring the minuscule 500 who did), what's the point in being "friendly". hey- iv is you and me. there is nothing else. no building, assets, stocks. I or aman or pappu or logiclife and every other core member and iv leader are just like you. we have jobs and families to take care of. we are afflicted by immigration retrogression- like you.
we have put in time, money and effort at great cost to our personal lives. i wish i could "like you" to that one too.
if "members" are willing to make this their organization their own- if there is to be this sense of involvement and ownership, then we will succeed. if not, if the attitude for the most is going to be "why should i" and "nope i am not contributing" and "how dare you ask" and "i have free speech" and "why doesn't iv do xyz for me" and "why should logiclife use this and that tenor" and "why did abc say def to me" and "i demand respect" and the best "these are my 2c but don't ask me to lift a finger to do this- iv should do this" then forget it. won't happen. because that IV you are imagining doing wonders and making miracles is YOU.
let me take this opportunity to thank everyone that participated in the fund drive, joined state chapters, met lawmakers, took initiatives to start state groups, ran the funding threads and contributed in any other way.
you are guys are true assets to iv- in fact you are the true iv. kudos to you!
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admesystems
01-09 11:41 AM
Thank you Lazycis...
I was out of status for more than a year when I got married
I was out of status for more than a year when I got married
kasanski33
02-13 04:13 PM
That was a great post LogicLife.....Its difficult to stick to the correct path when you feel everyone is against you, but you guys have done a great job and shown a lot of resilience and honor in what you are doing.
Keep up the good work...
Keep up the good work...
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chaukas
09-17 06:00 PM
Pls include letter to Ombudsman in the voting options.
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kosb
07-30 04:18 PM
Plenty of sites.. to discuss this stuff. Lets keep this forum only for immigration related issues.
You can go to Online Coupons | Cash Back - FatWallet.com (http://www.fatwallet.com) (Finance forum) or bogleheads forum to discuss specifics.
You can go to Online Coupons | Cash Back - FatWallet.com (http://www.fatwallet.com) (Finance forum) or bogleheads forum to discuss specifics.
p1234
10-03 12:00 PM
Did anyone notice that GCTest's only interest was to start a fight between EB2 and EB3 folks.
See how he opened up a thread and threw a match to light the fire so that everyone starts fighting amongst themselves and he did not post again in his own thread .
United we stand and divided we fall. This is true since life started and will be true until the end of time.
If that was the only intent we would let it go. He has done it the second time.
Check this thread, which moderators have closed:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21488
See how he opened up a thread and threw a match to light the fire so that everyone starts fighting amongst themselves and he did not post again in his own thread .
United we stand and divided we fall. This is true since life started and will be true until the end of time.
If that was the only intent we would let it go. He has done it the second time.
Check this thread, which moderators have closed:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21488
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Humhongekamyab
07-02 02:42 PM
With due respects, dude, this is one thing an individual should fight for himself, how will some other employee benefit if you sue your employer and win?..
I do not think small time bad desi employers are hiring illegals. They are doing everything right as per law, it is just that the law is in favor of the employers and the immigration delays further gives them leeway to try their dirty tricks.
Having said that, I appreciate your post informing affected employees on how to file a case. It will be useful for people who have a case against their employers. Please keep us posted on the outcome, I am sure it will motivate a lot of us.
Buddy when I was talking about illegals I was not talking about IT jobs or desi employers though I know desi's run lots of other businesses like grocery store, resturants, which required non-professional workers.
If the employer see ICE/DOL taking action against another employer and making an example out of it s/he will think twice about doing the same thing. Look at what happened with Fragomen. Though it is too early to say if Fragomen was involved in wrong doing, I am sure other immigration firms are already reviewing their procedure/guidance to make themselves compliant with the law/procedure.
I do not think small time bad desi employers are hiring illegals. They are doing everything right as per law, it is just that the law is in favor of the employers and the immigration delays further gives them leeway to try their dirty tricks.
Having said that, I appreciate your post informing affected employees on how to file a case. It will be useful for people who have a case against their employers. Please keep us posted on the outcome, I am sure it will motivate a lot of us.
Buddy when I was talking about illegals I was not talking about IT jobs or desi employers though I know desi's run lots of other businesses like grocery store, resturants, which required non-professional workers.
If the employer see ICE/DOL taking action against another employer and making an example out of it s/he will think twice about doing the same thing. Look at what happened with Fragomen. Though it is too early to say if Fragomen was involved in wrong doing, I am sure other immigration firms are already reviewing their procedure/guidance to make themselves compliant with the law/procedure.
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hoolahoous
10-23 12:45 PM
you can document (some emails/documents indicating that job loss was possible) that you had to move because of things out of your control, i.e. you had intentions of working but because of situation you had to move, then you will be fine.
same things apply if you are laid off soon after getting GC.
i learned not to make career decisions based on "potential" future problems.
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i am not a lawyer and don't consider my advice as legal advice.
same things apply if you are laid off soon after getting GC.
i learned not to make career decisions based on "potential" future problems.
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i am not a lawyer and don't consider my advice as legal advice.
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TeddyKoochu
04-19 09:42 AM
jimytomy many congratulations on your well deserved GC.
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dbcd
05-23 03:09 PM
Agree with original post.
Numbers USA people are angry right wing citizens.
Calls from legal aliens who can't vote won't move lawmakers one bit. Money and votes are the only 2 things that matter to politicians.
Pressure groups and lobbyists have far more reach and influence. IV as a group can use lobbyists and other influence to get a lot more done. Individual phone calls are a waste.
DBCD
I think this should be highlighted as it conveys a very important message:
"you may wish to google the nyt articles on how numbers usa operates to derail bills- they call! if our members would show the same enthusiasm and every single person would call when requested, we could have the same impact."
Numbers USA people are angry right wing citizens.
Calls from legal aliens who can't vote won't move lawmakers one bit. Money and votes are the only 2 things that matter to politicians.
Pressure groups and lobbyists have far more reach and influence. IV as a group can use lobbyists and other influence to get a lot more done. Individual phone calls are a waste.
DBCD
I think this should be highlighted as it conveys a very important message:
"you may wish to google the nyt articles on how numbers usa operates to derail bills- they call! if our members would show the same enthusiasm and every single person would call when requested, we could have the same impact."
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rkg000
04-19 09:54 PM
Found one more without good education.
Got to hand it to you man, your comments are Hilarious. You heard this .."Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". You said USCIS is screwing you you by giving H1 and GC to these lesser degree fellas, and shame on them for doing this, yet you stand in line to get screwed by USCIS, everyday, again and again. And you are standing in line for what? the past 10 yrs only to get screwed everyday. I don't understand the desperation. Anyway, hope you get your GC soon. I don't know which is more fun for you, getting GC or standing in the line.
Got to hand it to you man, your comments are Hilarious. You heard this .."Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". You said USCIS is screwing you you by giving H1 and GC to these lesser degree fellas, and shame on them for doing this, yet you stand in line to get screwed by USCIS, everyday, again and again. And you are standing in line for what? the past 10 yrs only to get screwed everyday. I don't understand the desperation. Anyway, hope you get your GC soon. I don't know which is more fun for you, getting GC or standing in the line.
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imh1b
01-21 01:37 PM
Anti immigration group targets all of the immigration. You can see numbersusa website. There are 2 reasons for the hate towards H1b and L1 program. Fraud and abuse is more in H1b. 20% was found by USCIS. Many fear it could be more. Mainly Indian bodyshopping and consulting companies are main reason. Another reason is many fear that H1b and L1 program is main reason outsourcing. Many big companies laid off US workers and did outsourcing to cut cost and they were asked to give Knowledge transfer to the onsite resources (those who are H1b or L1). Number of jobs in High skilled are very less (may be 2%) compared to low skilled in US. So they think 65k is more in percentage terms. US congress expects that H1b should be used only when no US Workers available. That is the reason there is no support at all at congress to increase H1b Cap. When they put a H1b restriction for TARP companies it was passed uniamously. So if we need EB reform just we need to disassociate or take neutral stand on H1b. They cannot remove H1b as it was with WTO.
AND WHO ARE YOU MR ANTI-IMMIGRANT?
Stop coming and posting in disguise. Don't you have anything better to do in life. Go learn some skills and find a real job. If you think your posts will do anything to us, you are mistaken. We will hate you guys more for your xenophobia
AND WHO ARE YOU MR ANTI-IMMIGRANT?
Stop coming and posting in disguise. Don't you have anything better to do in life. Go learn some skills and find a real job. If you think your posts will do anything to us, you are mistaken. We will hate you guys more for your xenophobia
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gc_maine2
05-20 04:17 PM
Very well summarized, recently I took the visitor insurance for my mother-in-law from .org. Before taking the insurance I called them and asked in details about pre-existing conditions and how it works. He told me in very simple words that for people who are aged above 45 plus they consider everything as pre-existing (he says its all because of age factor), any visitor insurance is only good if there is any accident (slipping from staircase, car accident...). so in a nutshell he said they will consider everything as pre-existing for aged people. I argued with him how come if they never have any History of BP and after coming here , if they have BP and sugar, then what? he says it just does not come suddenly, so its pre-existing.. I don't have the answer for him. After researching some more insurance companies, I took from them.
FinalGC,
You have summed it up correctly. Comprehensive insurance from a reputed US company/broker like AIG (not TATA-AIG) is the way to go. I had the same for my parents. Luckily, there was no need for us to use it but I know friends who have used it and were not left in soup (it worked as well as it was supposed to work).
Recently, one of my friend's dad came to Texas and got sick and the bill came to $60K. Unfortunatley, he did not buy travelers insurance and is fighting an uphill battle with the hospital.
My parents are coming next month, so I did a detailed research on all the insurance firms, both in India and in USA and I found that most of the ICICI or Tata-AIG plans have limited coverage, which limits the number of days in an ICU or visits by doctors etc.. Even if the plan has a $100K max, the plan may only cover upto $1000 per day for 30 days or so and then there is limitation for ICU and other surgeries. However, if you take a comprehensive coverage, then whatever the expenses, or wherever the charges are incurred, it does not matter. The total amount upto $100K will be covered and it does not limit ICU charges or room charges or doctor visits etc.
The only reason we need an insurance for parents is to cover emergencies, rather than regular doctor visits. Generally, any emergency run 60-70K, so I would recommend a minimum of $100K and do a comprehensive coverage. I have worked with IMG or check this guy at http://www.visitorshealthinsurance.com/
I even called IMG to ensure that this guy is an authorized re-seller/broker for the insurance.
Additionally, I did not find any insurance that covers pre-existing conditions. So just pray that they are healthy during their stay in US.
Yes, it is little expensive, but better peace of mind with comprehensive. If you do a local US insurance, then it is easy to get the insurance paper work done, when needed, rather than doing an Indian based insurance, which may need additional paper work and money transfer may get delayed.
FinalGC,
You have summed it up correctly. Comprehensive insurance from a reputed US company/broker like AIG (not TATA-AIG) is the way to go. I had the same for my parents. Luckily, there was no need for us to use it but I know friends who have used it and were not left in soup (it worked as well as it was supposed to work).
Recently, one of my friend's dad came to Texas and got sick and the bill came to $60K. Unfortunatley, he did not buy travelers insurance and is fighting an uphill battle with the hospital.
My parents are coming next month, so I did a detailed research on all the insurance firms, both in India and in USA and I found that most of the ICICI or Tata-AIG plans have limited coverage, which limits the number of days in an ICU or visits by doctors etc.. Even if the plan has a $100K max, the plan may only cover upto $1000 per day for 30 days or so and then there is limitation for ICU and other surgeries. However, if you take a comprehensive coverage, then whatever the expenses, or wherever the charges are incurred, it does not matter. The total amount upto $100K will be covered and it does not limit ICU charges or room charges or doctor visits etc.
The only reason we need an insurance for parents is to cover emergencies, rather than regular doctor visits. Generally, any emergency run 60-70K, so I would recommend a minimum of $100K and do a comprehensive coverage. I have worked with IMG or check this guy at http://www.visitorshealthinsurance.com/
I even called IMG to ensure that this guy is an authorized re-seller/broker for the insurance.
Additionally, I did not find any insurance that covers pre-existing conditions. So just pray that they are healthy during their stay in US.
Yes, it is little expensive, but better peace of mind with comprehensive. If you do a local US insurance, then it is easy to get the insurance paper work done, when needed, rather than doing an Indian based insurance, which may need additional paper work and money transfer may get delayed.
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Humhongekamyab
07-03 12:59 PM
That is right. There are people knowingly get into dirty deals with employers like
(1) Faking experience
(2) Working out per diems in percentages
(3) Changing job titles to suit their needs
(4) Most important - employee tries to do what he/she can to keep employer happy as the green card petition is filed - I have seen this - people I know do this - they lick the boots of their employer - get coworkers fired so that their jobs are secure - get personal in alomost everything with employer so that they feel secure and job satisfied - These are the people who come out anonymously and talk bad bad things about their employer because they know they are into a screwed up relationship - no pay hikes, employer cheating on perdiems - employer knows employee is ass kissing and talks sweet but exploits - employee knows that things are not going to be the same for a prollonged period - puts a false mask and blames organizations like IV for not doing anything - these are the folks who encourage employers to do what they want to do.
And the day these employees get their green cards, they will open they companies and will do the same thing to the new immigrants; and the circus will go on.
(1) Faking experience
(2) Working out per diems in percentages
(3) Changing job titles to suit their needs
(4) Most important - employee tries to do what he/she can to keep employer happy as the green card petition is filed - I have seen this - people I know do this - they lick the boots of their employer - get coworkers fired so that their jobs are secure - get personal in alomost everything with employer so that they feel secure and job satisfied - These are the people who come out anonymously and talk bad bad things about their employer because they know they are into a screwed up relationship - no pay hikes, employer cheating on perdiems - employer knows employee is ass kissing and talks sweet but exploits - employee knows that things are not going to be the same for a prollonged period - puts a false mask and blames organizations like IV for not doing anything - these are the folks who encourage employers to do what they want to do.
And the day these employees get their green cards, they will open they companies and will do the same thing to the new immigrants; and the circus will go on.
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bikram_das_in
05-12 05:26 PM
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
If you bring in a worker with a path to citizenship and make the laws so ambiguous that even after 10 years he/she does not know when to reach the destination in that path is a violation of basic human rights.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
The choice kind of goes back and forth. Getting H1b - yes You can work...Delaying/Rejecting GC...No can't work. It may be rejected without even the fault of the individual. Path to citizenship is an eyewash...there is not path to citizenship for a foreign worker at individual level.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian ....
Punish the guilty and do not stereotype. USCIS report says only 20% of H1b is bad.
5) We all have best back up....Saare Jahan Se Achha....
This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Nitin
If you bring in a worker with a path to citizenship and make the laws so ambiguous that even after 10 years he/she does not know when to reach the destination in that path is a violation of basic human rights.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
The choice kind of goes back and forth. Getting H1b - yes You can work...Delaying/Rejecting GC...No can't work. It may be rejected without even the fault of the individual. Path to citizenship is an eyewash...there is not path to citizenship for a foreign worker at individual level.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian ....
Punish the guilty and do not stereotype. USCIS report says only 20% of H1b is bad.
5) We all have best back up....Saare Jahan Se Achha....
This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Nitin
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Mr. Brown
05-14 05:47 PM
It is not an easy or trivial task to "just move on" and pursue plan B or plan C.
True. If the plan B/C is not up to par with plan A then it is definitely hard to move on. Plan A (GC) gives you a grand standard of living but Plan B (India etc.) gives you a first class citizenship plus a say in the society. It's not all bad.
With passage of time, the priorities and the drive of people change.
Given the passage of time priorities/drive should be geared more towards securing and making the best of what you have (home country's citizenship) rather than what you don't have (GC). Heck, even retirement based mutual funds work in that fashion (aggressive at first, conservative as time passes).
So, the immigration system should be quick and transparent.
No offense but it comes out a bit narcissist like ... don't ya think?
If you notice in daily life, there is always a "good-faith" disclosure of terms and conditions before signing up for anything. And both parties strive to keep their end of the deal.
See now ... everyone keeps talking about this deal that USCIS promised us. Either my lawyer didn't give me the fine print (where the time frame was mentioned) or USCIS doesn't promise a time frame to every applicant.
What is missing in this system is "empathy".
You nailed it. I completely agree with you and guess what this arrogance from USCIS will come back to bite them but it will be too late. How do you think empires that rule for centuries crumble in a few years? Empathy (or lack-thereof) can bring one down to their knees.
What can we do to seek such a leader or change?
Nothing. As second class citizens (GC/USC or not) we don't have a say in this society. We give some to get some.
True. If the plan B/C is not up to par with plan A then it is definitely hard to move on. Plan A (GC) gives you a grand standard of living but Plan B (India etc.) gives you a first class citizenship plus a say in the society. It's not all bad.
With passage of time, the priorities and the drive of people change.
Given the passage of time priorities/drive should be geared more towards securing and making the best of what you have (home country's citizenship) rather than what you don't have (GC). Heck, even retirement based mutual funds work in that fashion (aggressive at first, conservative as time passes).
So, the immigration system should be quick and transparent.
No offense but it comes out a bit narcissist like ... don't ya think?
If you notice in daily life, there is always a "good-faith" disclosure of terms and conditions before signing up for anything. And both parties strive to keep their end of the deal.
See now ... everyone keeps talking about this deal that USCIS promised us. Either my lawyer didn't give me the fine print (where the time frame was mentioned) or USCIS doesn't promise a time frame to every applicant.
What is missing in this system is "empathy".
You nailed it. I completely agree with you and guess what this arrogance from USCIS will come back to bite them but it will be too late. How do you think empires that rule for centuries crumble in a few years? Empathy (or lack-thereof) can bring one down to their knees.
What can we do to seek such a leader or change?
Nothing. As second class citizens (GC/USC or not) we don't have a say in this society. We give some to get some.
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forever_waiting
04-22 09:14 PM
Cmon dude. We expect a better example to back up your argument.
The example you state is a violation of anyone's civil rights...leave alone an immigrant.
To use your example, no one is "raping" the applicant by imposing a per-country limit on your green card application and making you wait a few years while you work in the country and enjoy all civil rights.
Congress used the power given to them by the Constitution to frame Immigration laws and they created a formula for regulation. Per-country limit is that formula which they had the constitutional right to create in order to uphold the balance of immigration in their country. Getting a GC is not anyone's right..its a privelege bestowed based on the applicant meeting certain criteria which includes quotas, as per the country's laws. There is NO civil rights impact. You are getting your green card in the end...only problem is they are making you wait 10 years because of that formula. But none of your civil rights are being impinged upon. So we should work to change flawed law and the formula rather than try to muddle the issue with civil rights. No matter what extreme example you give, you will still never be able to prove that your civil rights were impinged because you are having to wait for 10 years in a legal queue while your application is pending.
Don't get caught up trying to defend a stance no matter how irrelevant it may be. Its better we focus our time and effort on more achievable and valid provisions.
Good Luck to you.
They used the power. No problem. But how?
Let me quote an extreme example.
If they make a law saying, a foreign woman may be raped at port of entry in exchange for citizenship, will it stand?
NOW do you see the connection between immigration and civil rights?
The example you state is a violation of anyone's civil rights...leave alone an immigrant.
To use your example, no one is "raping" the applicant by imposing a per-country limit on your green card application and making you wait a few years while you work in the country and enjoy all civil rights.
Congress used the power given to them by the Constitution to frame Immigration laws and they created a formula for regulation. Per-country limit is that formula which they had the constitutional right to create in order to uphold the balance of immigration in their country. Getting a GC is not anyone's right..its a privelege bestowed based on the applicant meeting certain criteria which includes quotas, as per the country's laws. There is NO civil rights impact. You are getting your green card in the end...only problem is they are making you wait 10 years because of that formula. But none of your civil rights are being impinged upon. So we should work to change flawed law and the formula rather than try to muddle the issue with civil rights. No matter what extreme example you give, you will still never be able to prove that your civil rights were impinged because you are having to wait for 10 years in a legal queue while your application is pending.
Don't get caught up trying to defend a stance no matter how irrelevant it may be. Its better we focus our time and effort on more achievable and valid provisions.
Good Luck to you.
They used the power. No problem. But how?
Let me quote an extreme example.
If they make a law saying, a foreign woman may be raped at port of entry in exchange for citizenship, will it stand?
NOW do you see the connection between immigration and civil rights?
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Sreeshankar
05-01 05:22 PM
My application is at NSC
Thank you for posting it. It gives some possible timeframe relative approximation(??) of cases being looked at or even touched for various reasons, with respect to processing times too.
Sree
Thank you for posting it. It gives some possible timeframe relative approximation(??) of cases being looked at or even touched for various reasons, with respect to processing times too.
Sree
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04-08 09:12 PM
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Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Dear IV Members,
If you believe that your success depends on your immigration process - whether it's the ability to file I-485 earlier or to get green-card and citizenship sooner or whether it's the ability of your spouse to work - then you have to believe that your success somehow depends on the success of Immigration voice and these 170 volunteers in DC next week.
As you may know, we are just one more week away from hosting Advocacy day in Washington DC where about 170 members of Immigration Voice will conduct nearly 250 meetings with offices of Senators and Congressmen. Such events cost money. If we have enough contributions, we can spend as per our budget of nearly $ 50,000. If not, we will have to cut back on the event spending and reduce the magnitude and size of the event.
If you are not coming to DC next week, please do your part and contribute funds to Immigration Voice. It not only finances the event properly, it instills pride and confidence in the members who will be there in DC that there are thousands of willing supporters behind them who could not be there physically but are 100% with them in their determination and resolve.
For background click here -> Announcement about April 2011 Advocacy Days (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html#post2301599)
Contribute to Advocacy Event on the Capitol Hill (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) (All one-time contributions will go towards organizing the Advocacy Days event)
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Dear IV Members,
If you believe that your success depends on your immigration process - whether it's the ability to file I-485 earlier or to get green-card and citizenship sooner or whether it's the ability of your spouse to work - then you have to believe that your success somehow depends on the success of Immigration voice and these 170 volunteers in DC next week.
As you may know, we are just one more week away from hosting Advocacy day in Washington DC where about 170 members of Immigration Voice will conduct nearly 250 meetings with offices of Senators and Congressmen. Such events cost money. If we have enough contributions, we can spend as per our budget of nearly $ 50,000. If not, we will have to cut back on the event spending and reduce the magnitude and size of the event.
If you are not coming to DC next week, please do your part and contribute funds to Immigration Voice. It not only finances the event properly, it instills pride and confidence in the members who will be there in DC that there are thousands of willing supporters behind them who could not be there physically but are 100% with them in their determination and resolve.
For background click here -> Announcement about April 2011 Advocacy Days (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html#post2301599)
Contribute to Advocacy Event on the Capitol Hill (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) (All one-time contributions will go towards organizing the Advocacy Days event)
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